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In which you will find:-
 
A Handful of Dates for Other Early 19th Century Barometer Makers

Buying your First Mercury Barometer: a few tips

Specialist Dealers and Restorers


Useful Books and Websites


A HANDFUL OF DATES FOR OTHER EARLY ITALIAN BAROMETER MAKERS

Coming soon.....

BUYING YOUR FIRST ANTIQUE MERCURY BAROMETER

What should you buy? Understand that I am not  writing for people who are buying a barometer as an investment.  Buy something you like; something that begs you to take it home and that will suit your house.  A lot of people will want a barometer bearing the signature of their home town or somewhere nearby. Below you'll find a link to the Webster Signature Database, and a search by location will at least tell you if there is likely to be such a  barometer. It won't tell you where to find one, but you'll know if  it might be worth searching and waiting.  The database isn't foolproof, but it helps. Searching images online, using the term 'barometer'  and the name of the town,  will pull up barometers for sale - but it will also tell you the ones you missed when they were sold by dealers (who often show their sold archive) or auction houses.

 Buy the best quality you can afford, and read on re the costs of restoring, 
 
Look at online websites of specialist dealers to get a real feel for what is out there and what they cost. Browse auction catalogues and vist the better quality antique fairs, such as Antiques for Everyone, at the NEC,  or the Harrogate Antiques Fair at...Harrogate. Even if the stock may be as far above your touch as it is above mine, it will show you - if you don't already know -  what a fine stick or wheel barometer from a particular decade looks like. Yes, it will leave you full of lust and envy, but so will an afternoon's window-shopping at John Lewis. Acquire a copy of one of Edwin Banfield's books. Antique Barometers - An Illustrated Survey is a good starting point, unless you have already made up your mind between stick, wheel or barograph. See below for more details of these books.
The price for a working antique  barometer starts at around  £200 . Note that I wrote 'working' . A car can work but look rather tatty.   Unless you have won the lottery,  forget about 17th and most 18th century barometers. Christies sold a Queen Ann period specimen  by Daniel Quare for £20,000 ex-commission and VAT on the commission. But even early 19th century (Regency) barometers can be affordable. I've recently seen a  Sheraton, in fully restored/display condition, for £495. Later barometers are likely to be cheaper.
At the moment prices seem to be depressed. Good news for buyers.

A high-quality barometer in wonderful  and original condition and signed by a well known maker will be expensive. You hear antiques experts on TV extolling the glories of Georgian furniture that has passed down one family and acquired a glorious patina. Many barometers are restored, and some have had bits replaced, often tubes and bits of pediments or stringing. That's not unexpected -  we all need a bit of help as we get older.  It's just good to be told,   or to recognise for  yourself,  what's been done, because then the barometer is honest, even if, from an investment perspective, the value may have been reduced. But when the restoration equivalents of the face-lift, liposuction,  Botox, Grecian 2000 etc become excessive, the barometer loses authenticity, though it may still be an attractive object.   Beware of  barometers made up from  miscellaneous components taken from scrapped barometers and with a dial or level plate that bears the name of a maker who never saw any of the other bits and would not have liked them if he had!

It goes without saying that all sorts of quality issues will be reflected in the price. Why is one 1810-period barometer several times the price of another?  The type of veneer and the quantity and quality of decoration affect the price. Outline stringing (simple,  or rope/chequered etc), line inlay, crossbanding, paterae (especially unusual motifs) etc will all increase desirability, though some veneers, such as flame mahogany, can stand on their own feet without elaborate decoration. The shape of the case and, in the case of wheel barometers, the diameter of the dial are important. Good engraving is worth looking out for as it really heightens the appeal. The name of the maker is also a factor. English names may be more expensive, though the funny thing is that some barometers with English-sounding names were made by  Italians whose names have been anglicised. Francis Molton of Norwich is a good example.  Unusual barometers have a rarity value that increases the price. It's often just enough to look at a barometer and simply know you are looking at something special.


Beware of anonymous barometers, especially in that Sheraton style, because they may be Victorian or later copies – not fakes, just  repro – and they tend not to be signed. They have different engraving etc: much larger, darker engraving of the weather indications,  and heavy engraving around the centre of the dial.  This is fine if they are appropriately priced, of course. 
However, there are unsigned  early 19th century exceptions out there that would grace any home. You just have to do the homework, which is where Banfield's books are so good. No, not good - they are indespensible.  


Caveat Emptor...



Where to buy?

The choice is between the reputable specialist, the local antique shops, or the antique auction.


Auction

You may pay less than if you buy from a dealer, only provided you know what you are doing.  Remember   the following:

  • Buyer's Premium  adds around 20% to the hammer price, depending on the auction house policy. That's £20 for every £100. And VAT is levied on that premium.  A £300 barometer could cost you about £375  
  • The auction house is  not allowed to post a barometer with mercury in the tube - you have to collect it or arrange specialist collection. Transportation is not straightforward and if not done properly can smash the tube, leaving you with a car covered in glass and mercury. (The movement of the car can cause the mercury to rise and fall so violently that, if it rises quickly it can smash through the top of the tube. You can get a specialist to plug the tube which makes it transportable -  but still not postable.   If  done badly, plugging can push air into the tube, which is very  bad news, and, even if it doesn't,  when you get the barometer home,  you have to set  it up. 
  •  A 400-mile round trip by car will add serious ££ to the cost. That £375 can be pushing £440 by the time you take it out of the car after having filled the petrol tank and stopped for a coffee or two.
  • If the barometer is in perfect working order and attractive enough to hang straight on the wall you may be lucky. Just do serious homework before you start bidding, and know when to sit on your hands. It may not be as easy as you think, unless you have the temperament of Yoda from Star Wars. One very experienced barometer dealer told me that he once bid on the wrong lot and ended up buying a doll with one arm.... Go to some house clearences first and buy a cheap trinket or pot that you can donate to the charity shop, just so you get the feel for bidding.
  •  It is infinitely better to see the instrument  for yourself than to bid from a picture in a catalogue. Believe me: I have been to view barometers on viewing day having first seen them in the online catalogue - and some have looked terrible. I am not accusing the auction houses of photoshopping the images; it's just that when you set up lighting for photography you bring up a shine on the veneer that gives a richness to the wood that may not be there. You don't want to overspend  if you are bidding online or by phone, because your winning bid may be followed by an unexpectedly high restoration bill. So do look at the barometer on viewing or sale day. And if you are disappointed, don't buy it. Better to have wasted the petrol than the cost of the instrument. 
  • If it requires restoration beyond, say, rethreading the weights, you ought to think of circa £300 restoration costs, and be aware that it could be  more depending on the amount of work that is necessary and the rate charged by the restorer.  If you are prepared for £300 you'll get a pleasant surprise if it's less,  and you shouldn't get a heart attack if it's more. Remember it’s a highly skilled, labour intensive task.  Most auction houses will send you hi-res images and a condition report, and some will let you take your own pictures. If you can get images of the front, back, sides, tube, each dial etc, and especially of any obvious damage – you can send them to a restorer and get at least a ball-park figure before you waste time going to the auction. Then compare it with the cost of a similar instrument from a specialist dealer. If you take a chance, and that £440 barometer is going to cost a further £400+ to clean the case, replace some missing bits, resilver the dials, and refill or replace the mercury tube, you've spent over £800 at least. What is the barometer actually worth? Would you have had to pay £800 in a dealer's showroom for it? Of course, if it bears the name of one of your ancestors, you may be more than happy to pay over the odds. If you find a good stick barometer with curved glass that's cracked, beware. The replacement glass will have to be handmade for your restorer. Ouch, as they say. That's not to say that the barometer won't repay restoration, just to warn you.

  • Ebay
     
    In my humble opinion it's not a good place for the novice as many of the sellers either do not have a clue or else try to get away with asking high starting or BIN prices for inferior instruments that you probably won't have the chance to see first and would get more cheaply in a conventional auction.  I recently saw a very tatty specimen  - one  that might have been good for demonstrating the construction and working of a barometer  - but although it  appeared to have mercury in the back, the dealer was offering to post it for £12. I did contact the seller, and received the answer that  it had some silvery liquid in the tube but he didn't know what it was...Imagine receiving that package...  You see onion tops described as rare Regency instruments; 1810 sticks described as early 18th century; tatty 5-glass instruments catalogued as early 19th century.  Ebay is crammed with undesirable, if not hideous, barometers,  Out of 2,600 lots I flicked through  recently, there were no more than about 10 mercury barometers and among those was just one attractive Sheraton and a very desireable Francis Molton (the latter was being sold by an  antique dealer who also had a shop where the barometer could be viewed)

    General Antique shops
  • This term covers a very wide spectrum of business, from  (in Britain)  LAPADA or BADA members down to  what can look rather like junk shops.
  •  Some may sell only one or two  undistinguished instruments needing restoration, and the staff may know nothing about barometers at all. Do your homework.See above, under auctions. 
  • Some will stock a few barometers, often to complement their furniture showroom, and have a specialist restorer who repairs/restores them, and who will deliver your purchase and set it up for you. As you may not know this, do your homework and ask questions.
  • You may get a gem, especially a local name. 

Specialist dealers

  • Some only stock the upper end of price and quality; others offer a good range of periods and prices to suit all tastes and pockets.
  • You will get good advice. Good barometer dealers are passionate about their stock.
  • The instrument will come fully restored, working, and with a guarantee. You may well even get images of the instrument being restored - assuming it needed restoring.
  • Many dealers will bring the barometer to your house and set it up for you, especially if you don’t live too far away. This may be an extra cost to you  or an integral/negotiable part of the selling price.
  • You will pay a premium, but know exactly what you are getting. A reputable dealer  (if you're not sure, look for members of an association such as LAPADA, the  London and Provincial Antique Dealers' Association), or BADA (British Antique Dealers Association) will not take advantage of a buyer's inexperience to pass off a common 1850s onion top  as a rare George III specimen. Those who repair clocks as well as barometers may be members of the British  Horological Institute. I've put a list of  reputable UK specialists below, but there are undoubtedly many others, and I would be very happy to include them on the site..   


In need of some TLC
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Missing stringing, filthy case, dirty, dull brass bezel.





RESTORING YOUR BAROMETER


I bought my Ortelli because I thought it would be a good idea to try restoring a barometer. Anyone who knows my capability with any tools that do not belong in the kitchen drawer will realise it would have been a very bad idea had I gone through with it.  Fortunately for the barometer, I realised as soon as I had it in my arms that it deserved far better, and I had already got cold feet after buying and intently studying Care & Restoration of Barometers by Philip R Collins. So ended my flirtation with restoration (though it did teach my husband and me how to rethread a barometer, a skill which has proved useful).

If you have a barometer that needs restoration, don't just hand it over and run! The current trend for antique collectors is to want things in original condition, but if you are buying something as a decorative item for your home you will probably want to balance aesthetic appeal  and authenticity. Discuss with the restorer how you want the finished instrument to look. Do you want it to look brand new, with gleaming dial and brass, or are you more comfortable with something mellow. Personally, I think the trick is to remove the ravages of time while preserving the warmth and beauty of age - so, no, I don't want the brasswork and silvering to blind me. A good restorer will give good advice; and they will be very keen to preserve the patina of the veneer - though sometimes, tragically, it may have to be stripped back.  If this should happen, you will become the custodian of the  barometer as if it were new, and it will be your duty to allow the long process of patination to begin all over again. Like planting an acorn, you will not see it come to maturity in your lifetime. Just do it for posterity.




SPECIALIST DEALERS AND RESTORERS IN BRITAIN


The list is in no particular order and is rather geographically skewed! Some names are of dealers I know and would trust, others are dealers whose stock and information indicates they are specialists. Many have interesting articles about barometers, too.   If you are a specialist in this field - dealing in just barometers or clocks and barometers and offering real client service  - and want to be on the list, please let me know through the contact form on the home page. I suppose I have to make the usual statement that listing a particular business does not imply a personal endorsement. However,  Andy Firth of AWF Restorations and Andrew Foott have restored three of my four barometers and made lovely jobs of all three, and I have no hestitation in recommending them to anyone in the area.

Restorers and dealers don't necessarily have showrooms  or workshops open 6 or 7 days a week - some work from home and, in any case, will go off to buy stock, exhibit at antique fairs or set up clocks and barometers in the homes of clients.  If you would like to view stock or want to discuss restoration, it's essential to check opening hours and/or make contact through websites, email or telephone first. 
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A W Firth Antique Restorations, Antique Clocks and Barometer Sales, Glossop Derbyshire.
Telephone: 07967557651
Website:  
http://awf-restorations.co.uk/ 

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Ho Ho Bird Fine Antique Clocks and Barometers. (Cheshire/Greater Manchester/ Derbyshire area)
Telephone: 0161 408 2473 or 07734 680692; http://www.hohobird.com/

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Andrew Foott: Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire
Telephone: 0161 485 3559
Email:
andrew.foott@gmail.com
http://andrewfoott-restorations.co.uk/

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P.A. Oxley British Antique Clocks and Barometers
Cherhill Manor, Cherhill Calne, Wiltshire, SN11 8UX
Telephone : 01249 816227
http://www.british-antiqueclocks.com/

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Horologica Clock and Barometer Repairs
Billericay, Essex.
Telephone: 0845 467 9006; Website: http://www.horologica.co.uk/

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Kembery Antique Clocks Ltd, Bristol,
Telephone 0117 956 5281
Email
kembery@kdclocks.co.uk
Website: http://www.kdclocks.co.uk

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Alan Walker Fine Antique Barometers,
Halfway Manor, Bath Road, Halfway, Newbury, Berkshire, RG20 8NR
Telephone: 01488 657670;
Email:
enquiries@alanwalker-barometers.com
Website:
http://www.alanwalker-barometers.com/

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Derek and Tina Rayment Antiques,
Orchard House,Barton Rd, Malpas,
Cheshire SY14 7HT.
Telephone: 01829 270 893;
Website:
http://www.antique-barometers.com/ .
Email
raymentantiques@aol.com

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Hg-Barometers
43 Church Street, Ashbourne, Derbyshire, DE6 1AJ,
Telephone: 01335 345633
http://www.hg-barometers.co.uk/
Website http://www.hg-barometers.co.uk/

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Barometer World Ltd
Quicksilver Barn, Merton, Okehampton, Devon EX20 3DS
Telephone 01805 603444
Email:
barometers@barometerworld.co.uk
Website: www.barometerworld.co.uk/

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It's About Time,
863 London Road, Westcliff-on-Sea, Essex SS0 9SZ
Telephone 01702 472 574
shop@antiqueclock.co.uk
http://www.antiqueclock.co.uk/

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Ye Olde Clock Shop, Staffordshire.
Telephone: 01785 713576;
Email: info@antiqueclocksales.co.uk
Website: http://www.antiqueclocksales.co.uk/index.php

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Carlton Clocks
Chalfont Station Road, Little Chalfont,Bucks,HP7 9PN
01494 763793
info@ukclocks.com
http://www.ukclocks.com/

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Cove Clocks
The Packhouse Antiques Centre, Runfold, Farnham
Surrey GU10 1PJ

Phone:  01252 548 288 
Email: neil.stickley@btinternet.com
http://www.coveclocks.com/

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Jones Barometer Services
Frampton
Near Boston
Lincolnshire
PE20 1BT
Landline phone: 01205 722257
Mobile: 07711 245921

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M C Taylor - The Clockshop
 995 Christchurch Road
 Bournemouth Dorset
 BH7 6BB

Tel: 01202 429718
email: info@bournemouthclocks.co.uk

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Colin Jones
The Barometer Shop
New Street, Leominster, Herefordshire, HR6 8DP
Tel: 01568 610200
Fax: 01568 610200
thebarometershop@btconnect.com
www.thebarometershop.co.uk


 

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Old Time Antique Clocks and Barometers,
Oak Bank Farm,
Sallow Lane,
Wacton
Norfolk BR15 2UL
Tel. 01508 532188
Email: paul@oldetimeantiqueclocks.com
www.oldetimeantiqueclocks.com

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AND LASTLY

You have your barometer safely on the wall. But now it needs another one to keep it company and to check it against. Three would be better... plus a handsome cased pocket aneroid.

ESSENTIAL BOOKS AND USEFUL WEBSITES

The standard work used to be Nicholas Goodison's English Barometers 1680-1860. It deals primarily with the great English makers of the 18th century and  while it is very interesting in its own right it  is probably not the book for the average enthusiast who is unlikely to come across or be able to afford the rare and unique instruments made by the names with which the the author deals.But it's a lovely book. Being out of print, it can attract high prices - I've seen a copy advertised on Amazon UK  for as much as £350. But it is still possible to pick it up for less than £10 - go to the great international used book website www.addall.com where many copies at a wide range of prices are listed. And if you have  spare £47,000 you can snap up a first edition of Pride and Prejudice as well.



Of more practical use for barometer spotters are the following, and the best place to get them (especially if you like to support UK companies who don't have complex tax arrangements)  is the publisher, Baros Books. http://www.barosbooks.co.uk/

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Books by Edwin Banfield
Antique Barometers, an Illustrated Survey
Barometers: Stick or Cistern tube
Barometers: Wheel or Banjo
The Italian Influence on English Barometers from 1780
Barometer Makers and Retailers 1660-1900
Barometers: Aneroid and Barograph

Books by Philip  R Collins

Aneroid Barometers and their Restoration
The Banfield Family Collection of Barometers
Barographs
Bizarre Barometers
Care and Restoration of Barometers
FitzRoy and his Barometers

Baros also publish:
Edward Knowles Middleton:
The History of the Barometer . This is probably a fascinating tome, but I'm ashamed to admit that my scientific understanding is limited so it really goes over my head.  It  does not deal with makers as human beings nor with barometers as decorative objects of beauty.

Negretti & Zambra: A treatise on Meteorological instruments  (first published 1864)


Details of all books are on the website

Websites

The Webster Signature Database
http://historydb.adlerplanetarium.org/signatures/
This is a excellent resource. The page doesn't look very friendly, but it allows you to search for a maker (signature) and find what is known of their output. You can also search by location, so if you want to know if you are ever likely to find a barometer with your home town engraved on it, this is the place to look. If you want to find a York barometer you will have to wade through a lot of New York results as well; if you are American, you have to discount the York, England hits, but other than that it is wonderful. Also good if you can read the town but not the maker's name in the dial in, say, a photograph.  Or if the maker's name has been mangled by the engraver.

Search the Webster database

Friends of antique meteorological instruments
www.freunde-alter-wetterinstrumente.de/
Yes, I know it's in German, but it's very good . It includes  a list of 18th Century European makers, and you don't need to read German to understand it. The British ones are culled from Banfield, of course, but there are  many others from France, Germany, Netherlands etc, and the link to the page is:  www.freunde-alter-wetterinstrumente.de/12barges04.htm

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Horologica

As well as being a dealer and restorer, Horologica has a lot of useful and interesting information and the site is well worth a look.

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